where_away | Ram and Puss

'Brother, how tedious you can be, on occasion. I did hear some cries of "Jolly rogers - jolly rogers - we shall roger them." But in parenthesis, Jack, tell me about this word roger. I have often heard it aboard, but can make out no clear nautical signification.'
'Oh, it is no sea-term. They use it ashore much more than we do - a low cant expression meaning to swive or couple with.'
Stephen considered for a moment and then said, 'So roger joins bugger and that even coarser word; and they are all used in defiance and contempt, as though to an enemy; which seems to show a curious light on the lover's subjacent emotions. Conquest, rape, subjugation: have women a private language of the same nature, I wonder?"
Jack said, 'In some parts of the West Country rams are called Roger, as cats are called Puss; and of course that is their duty; though which came first, the deed or the doer, the goose or the egg, I am not learned enough to tell.'
'Would it not be the owl, at all?'
'Never in life, my poor Stephen. Who ever heard of a golden owl?

Why is it the duty of the rams to be called Roger, and of cats to be called Puss?

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All cats are called Puss, because... well *thinks* because they just ARE, that's why *g* Let's see what Wiktionary says: "From a Common Germanic word for cat. Akin to Dutch poes "puss, cat", Low German puus-katte, dialectal Swedish kattepus, Norwegian pus. Found also in several other European and Western Asian languages."

And it is the duty of a ram to swive or couple with his ewes - for why else would you keep a ram? - I suppose that is what Jack means anyway - he is not sure whether rams are called Roger because they roger, or whether the word comes from the name :-)

Those are not really explanations of their duty *g* But it'll do for me.

So Jack is lost for words, as usual. Is that what you wanted to say? ;D

Oh, he is making sense, entire sense, and as for the duties of a puss I am not even going there *g*

and as for the duties of a puss I am not even going there *g*
My thoughts entirely. I did not want to go there either. ;D

as for the duties of a puss I am not even going there
A puss is not for duty, it is purely for pleasure... everyone knows that!

Just don't ask the Church of England!

Or the Catholic church either.

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Oh, they have an opinion? ;D

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...even rams?

According to the Oxford dictionary 'roger' comes from an ancient word for penis. It didn't say what the ancient word was though...

How apt for the rams... ;D

Maybe that is what Jack meant?
Obviously more of a country gentleman than I gave him credit for...!

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"British vulgar slang"? Does nobody else get rogered, then? How sad!

One of my favourite local rock formations is called Ringing Roger... (random thought)

Only ewes get rogered? And maybe pussy cats? Shame really!

What a name! You would not know the origin?

rams are (commonly) called Roger, ~~as cats are called Puss~~; and of course that is their duty

You can leave the cats out and the sentence is a bit easier to understand. It is the ram's duty to roger the ewes to make lots of little lambs!

And cats are called Puss because when they are rogered there a lots of little pussy cats, no? ;D

Makes sense to me!

The only thing that doesn't make sense it that "roger" normally means anally. Or maybe it's changed its meaning a bit in the last 200 years.

"roger" normally means anally.
DOES it???
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News to me... I thought it was much more generic than that!

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Ah! Why is the pirate's flag then called the Jolly Roger?

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Thank goodness one of us is seeing sense somewhere... ;D

A cat and a ram together cannot make lots of little pussy cats! It's biologically (and physically) impossible...

I wish you would not confuse my mind, for all love!

*snorts*

Maybe that's how rex cats got their curly hair.

*winces*

Jack confused his mind first!