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esteven ([personal profile] esteven) wrote in [community profile] where_away2012-08-11 04:32 pm

Master and Commander - Patriotism

With the revolution in France gone to pure loss I was already chilled beyond expression. And now, with what I saw in '98, on both sides, the wicked folly and the wicked brute cruelty, I have had such a sickening of men in masses, and of causes, that I would not cross this room to reform parliament or prevent the union or to bring about the millennium. I speak only for myself, mind - it is my own truth alone - but man as part of a movement or a crowd is indifferent to me. He is inhuman. And I have nothing to do with nations, or nationalism. The only feelings I have -for what they are - are for men as individuals; my loyalties, such as they may be, are to private persons alone.'
'Patriotism will not do?'
'My dear creature, I have done with all debate. But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either my country, right or wrong, which is infamous, or my country is always right, which is imbecile.'


(chapter five)
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[personal profile] sid 2012-08-11 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I like his definition of "patriotism" there at the end. That has been the way it works here in America at times, sadly.
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[personal profile] feroxargentea 2012-08-11 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The reaction, in post-war/post-imperial countries, can be such a horror of jingoism that it becomes "my country can never be right"
*shrugs* Probably better than Stephen's infamy/imbecility, still.